Summit Middle high risk to get to school when it snows
Posted on | February 17, 2009 |
How well will this work on a dead end street?
Just to be clear, I’m the first to brag on how good Anmore looks after their roads in the winter. Compared to Port Moody and Coquitlam, Anmore does a super job… Thanks!
On to another point. During the “big snow fall” I can verify that at least one SD43 Middle School did not clear side walks and drop off areas.
I believe this video show in addition to my experience, that a second School had winter traffic issues exist?
Stay tuned, coming to an Anmore neighborhood near you!
Summit Middle School Parkway crosswalk
KIDS trying to enter summit middle school
2 girls crossing
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For more information regarding the proposed building of Heritage Middle School please contact:
Village of Anmore - Anmore Mayor Hal Weinberg, Councilor John McEwen, Councilor Kerri Palmer Isaak, Councilor Mario Piamonte, Anmore Councilor Chris Sedergreen. 2697 Sunnyside Road, Anmore, BC, V3H 5G9
School District 43 – SD43 - Tom Grant Superintendant of Schools, Dan Derpak, Assistant Superintendant of Schools, Holly Butterfield School Trustee. 550 Poirier Street, Coquitlam, B.C. V3J 6A7
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February 17th, 2009 @ 11:04 am
How is this relevant? Obviously when it snows traffic is impacted. Am I to understand that you would argue that we should not build schools because traffic may be negetively impacted when it snows? I think you missed the point of my previous comment in response to your “talk around town” post. My complaint was merely technical. If a quotation is cited in the public domain it should be properly attributed (who said it, when was it spoken, to what does it refer, & etc.). This is the responsible way to convey information.
February 17th, 2009 @ 12:58 pm
Closing the schools when access is dangerous seems the prudent solution not ceasing to build much needed facilities…
February 17th, 2009 @ 1:56 pm
This is very relevant to residents who live near or around schools. You have to look at the big picture here. People who bought their homes in this area have been living piecefully for some time now. Yes this is a live and learn situation at least for me. I guess I should of questioned who owned the vacant land around my home at the time of purchasing. I much rather have 20 homes placed at the end of my street then a Middle School for 500 or so kids, less traffic. That being said we have a right to be concerned how weather conditions will effect the congestion that will be brought into our neighbourhood. Put yourself in our shoes and place aside your wants and needs for a moment.
What’s appalling is the uncompassionate world we live in.
February 17th, 2009 @ 3:04 pm
Natalie,
You do realize that those of us who sincerely want the school to be built could say the very same of you. I will requote you with very little revision, Hummingbird drive petitioners “put yourself in our shoes and place aside your wants and needs for a moment” we believe that this school is good for our community and that it will significantly enrich the lives of thousands of children in the coming years. You see how this argument is only compelling to those who are of likemind. This decision therefore has to be made based on the greater good taking into consideration the needs of all impacted individuals.
The world is still a very lovely place - these are minor disagreements that will settle themselves…
February 17th, 2009 @ 3:40 pm
Why is everyone ignoring the fact that if these issues were considered and discussed with the public prior to zoning, none of this would be an issue. I believe all that is being asked for here is transparency.
-”closing the schools when access is dangerous seems the prudent solution not ceasing to build much needed facilities…”
I think what’s being asked here is what makes this location better than any other in terms of these issues. Based on the experiences with traffic at the other school on a hill, what makes this location ideal ? What ruled out other locations ? How will this be different ?
I simply don’t see what’s wrong with challenging this. Be realistic, the current roads in this area are not suited for this kind of traffic.
February 17th, 2009 @ 3:51 pm
I was only referring to closing the schools when inclement weather (snow, freezing rain, & etc.) renders access dangerous. I am not sure you understood my meaning.
February 17th, 2009 @ 4:07 pm
Resident,
Isn’t that what this forum and the upcoming public hearing are supposed to accomplish? Of course, asking questions is always a good idea. Do you imagine that the large number of well-informed individuals who feel that the school should be built are mere unquestioning sheep? On the contrary, many of us are very thoughtful and prudent individuals who sincerely believe that the relevant grievances expressed by this blog can be mitigated and that the enormous benefit to the larger community far outweighs any potential negetive impact.
Regarding transparency - don’t you find the refusetodo…signs rather opaque? What are you opposing - access (as the Hummingbird Drive petition clearly states) or the location of the school itself?
February 17th, 2009 @ 4:22 pm
Tammy,
I saw the signs the other day, and honestly, I see all of this as a request for information. In fact, I am happy that people are really taking an interest in this matter on both sides…discourse like this is what makes viable communities: questioning and making sure that things are done correctly and not just rushed through, thinking about options, and calling for others to do the same. In my opinion all of these issues should have been asked sooner, prior to even mentioning rezoning. This way, if the answers to the questions depict negative impacts, other locations could be scouted and options raised. I agree with you, the school will benefit children, all schools benefit children..but I also think that one has to be realistic regarding all matters, and impacts need to be studied…if an impact is too great, alternatives need to be designed and discussed and worked through.
February 17th, 2009 @ 8:18 pm
Tammy,
This comment of yours, “the enormous benefit to the larger community far outweighs any potential negetive impact.”
Now YOU can say that because this is not coming on your front door. Really nice of you to say that a few residents have to sacrifice for YOU and others to get their wants and needs met.
Now I’ve seen two comments from you mentioning how there is a large amount supporting this project and the little insignificant people who are against, well too bad. Now I know that is not exactly how you have worded it but its exactly how I’m reading it.
We may be a small group that is not for either the access to the school being in our neighbourhood or even against the schools location itself but we have a right to be heard and our concerns should be greatly considered. I fear that all our concerns will fall on deaf ears this thursday.
February 17th, 2009 @ 10:35 pm
Never fear Nathalie (I apologize - I just noticed that I have been incorrectly spelling your name) - I have no authority on this matter. Like you I only wish to express my opinion after that I have to let the democratic process run its course. Also, please do not misrepresent me -I would never refer to anyone as a “little insignificant” person. That is phrasing that I would never ever allow. Everyone has an equal right to be heard - you no less than me.
Regardless, I can tell that you are upset and offended - that was not my intention. Please accept my apology and understand that I am merely expressing my views. I am a resident of this community who sincerely hopes that the middle school project goes forward - this does not make me “evil” as this blog implies with its opening quote, but rather a person who holds an opinion different than your own.
February 18th, 2009 @ 9:44 am
Tammy,
I know my emotions are running high, please don’t take them personally. I am not going down without a fight and I hope everyone can respect that. No matter the outcome I have to feel that I tried to save what I value.
February 18th, 2009 @ 4:03 pm
Nathalie,
I can appreciate that. I have not and will not take any of your comments personally. We are all heavily invested in our children and our community and so it is little wonder that we are rather emotional at times. I have no doubt that you are a very lovely person.
February 18th, 2009 @ 5:36 pm
I would hate to live by any school in SD43. Traffic is horrible, parking is horrendous, and the district refuses to close the schools during snowy days which compounds these issues. So - I feel for those residents that live by the area zoned for the middle school.
Having said all this, however, what residents of the area need to understand is that when you buy a house by undeveloped land (no matter what it is zoned for at the time), there is always a risk of future development that you are not going to like. This is a risk that all residents near this area took when they bought. Unless you own the greenspace, or it’s protected, somethings gonna be built there eventually. It could be ANYTHING. I have the same problem in greenspace by my house, but I made sure to buy a house that wouldn’t be impacted by any development that went on there. So, why should the rest of the community suffer because you made the choice to buy there?
I am not saying that the issues the residents raised shouldn’t be addressed, but is a petition against the school the only way you could go about raising your concerns? Sorry to say this, but it really makes the residents appear to be non-cooperative, self-serving snobs who just want to keep their greenspace. Just my opinion…
February 19th, 2009 @ 7:55 am
Pam,
The petition is against the access of the school being in our neighbourhood, not against the school itself. I initiated the petition only because there is another access to the school off of Heritage Mountain. Why should a quiet residential area have to suffer so you can have two options to drop off children. The school does not need two entries, yes in my opinion. The access off of Heritage Mountain should be sufficient enough.
I am not a non-cooperative, self-serving snob. I am a hard working, mom of two who wants to raise them on a safe street! I purchased my home for its safe surroundings. As a parent you look for a home on a dead-end street or a cul-de-sac so you can feel somewhat safe that your child will not be run over by a car. Hummingbird Drive at the moment is a dead-end street.
You have stated above that you understand what horrible traffic conditions a SD43 brings. Well I know this too and thats why my fight is against the access of the school being off a quiet residential area.
I am fighting for the safety of my children, against the convenience for others.
February 19th, 2009 @ 10:24 am
Nathalie,
I fail to support anyone who wants the rest of us to abandon a wonderful opportunity for our children and our community simply because you didn’t do your homework before purchasing as to who owned the vacant land around your home.
I also fail to understand the point to be gained from this posting. Paul was absoltely correct in his comment that the more prudent approach would be for the school district to close the schools which I believe they will consider more seriously now after the complaints they received in January.
February 19th, 2009 @ 2:55 pm
Kathy,
I already admitted to not doing my homework and making the comment “live and learn”. I am not against the Middle School being built, I am against our street being used as one of the accesses to the school. I ask why does one school need two entrances? I actually know why because they plan on building this school right behind the high school which already brings tons of traffic. So should we the residents of Hummingbird Drive and surrounding residents take the burden for lack of thought!!!
Hummingbird Drive is a dead-end street and Dogwood is a cul-de-sac, so they plan on trapping us in our own neighbourhood to convenience others. Why do people think we should lye down and accept this? We didn’t do our homework, how about SD43 when purchasing their land. Building two schools back to back in today’s day with everyone wanting to drive their children to school.