Anmore - Lands, Wildlife & Water Quality
Posted on | February 23, 2009 |
On a balance scale, would building the proposed SD43 Heritage Woods Middle School in Anmore, be a positive or negative effect on Lands, Wildlife & Water Quality?
Would the building of the School positively or negatively support the bullet points below?
Lands, Wildlife & Water Quality
•Sprawl consumes green space and forests.
•Woodlands and wetlands are sacrificed to sprawl, depriving wildlife of habitat and destroying native flora and fauna.
•Sprawl threatens rare and endangered species and contributes to exotic species invasion. Creating small isolated forest patches can disrupt pollination, seed dispersal, wildlife migration and breeding.
•Water quality and quantity declines with sprawl and the removal of forests by creating more pollutants and eliminating natural filters.
•Sprawl reduces rainwater absorption, interfering with the recharge of groundwater
Published by the David Suzuki Foundation • October 2003
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For more information regarding the proposed building of Heritage Middle School please contact:
Village of Anmore - Anmore Mayor Hal Weinberg, Councilor John McEwen, Councilor Kerri Palmer Isaak, Councilor Mario Piamonte, Anmore Councilor Chris Sedergreen. 2697 Sunnyside Road, Anmore, BC, V3H 5G9
School District 43 – SD43 - Tom Grant Superintendant of Schools, Dan Derpak, Assistant Superintendant of Schools, Holly Butterfield School Trustee. 550 Poirier Street, Coquitlam, B.C. V3J 6A7
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February 24th, 2009 @ 12:00 am
I think the comparison would be valid if it were to remain as parkland.. but if not a school it would be 20 1/2 acre homes. I can’t imagine that these 20 1/2 acre homes would be built to LEED Gold standard, so from an environmental perspective, it would appear that the LEED Gold school would be better. Perhaps the LEED Gold building model would rub off on some of our residential developments.
If you want an example of sprawl, that would actually be our homes, many of which compete with small community centres in size.
February 24th, 2009 @ 2:01 pm
Wow… you really are grasping at straws.
Funny, I seem to recall that piece of land where your house is sitting on being covered with trees only a few short years ago.
February 25th, 2009 @ 12:26 pm
And the land your home is sitting on was never treed. Your home doesn’t attract 350 plus cars a day, I can’t imagine you being liked that much.
Stop comparing apples with oranges, really they are two different fruits.
February 26th, 2009 @ 1:19 pm
If you’d actually read the post that the responce was refering to, it didn’t mention ANYWHERE in it anything about CARS or TRAFFIC. It was only about the negative environmental impact of cutting down trees.
Yes, there is going to be an evironmental impact — no matter where the school goes. Just like I was pointing out, there was a negative environmental impact when the lots where those few of you who oppose the school were clear cut to build your large homes. Just like there was when the land my home was sitting on was cleared. Just like there was when all the stores you shop at or office you work at was built. That’s a fact of life and all we can do it follow environmental guidelines to the best of our ability - which, thanks much in part to the individual behind this website I’m confident is going to happen — And you CAN’T use it as an excuse to not build a school close to you.
The fact you think that clear-cutting for a school vs clear-cutting for a home is apples and oranges, show’s that you’re bananas.
February 27th, 2009 @ 6:32 am
The only helpful contribution you’ve made was adding to the fruit salad.
Seems to me you have “large homes” envy and you don’t like trees.
February 27th, 2009 @ 3:17 pm
What people (likely not from Anmore) are failing to recognize, is that in Anmore we’ve paid a premium for real estate. If I wanted to live next to a busy street, or if I wanted no natural habitat around my home, if I wanted to have to worry about what was happening on the street, and litter,and heavy carbon dioxide fumes floating through the air every morning, if I wanted parking issues, and traffic issues, I would have spent about half as much money and bought a home in Port Moody. Fact of the matter is, I didn’t want that, so I paid a premium and bought in Anmore. It simply blows my mind that people don’t understand this concept. I would like to know who is going to compensate me for the loss my property value will take ? Right now, land and clean airspace is worth much more in terms of real estate than convenience. So, is the village going to cover my loss ? I would be more than happy to have my property appraised before and after construction and I can guarantee you that it will take a hit.
February 27th, 2009 @ 3:35 pm
It may stay as park land? Who can say it will be developed or when, by whom, and for what purpose?
If SD43 can’t build on it they will have to sell it, and one point we probably can agree on is that real estate market is slow.
How many years could those trees stand and help reduce the affects of GHG before the land is sold? Then who ever buys it must apply for permits. How long will this take?
“Perhaps the LEED Gold building model would rub off on some of our residential developments” agreed, but people must leave there comfort zone and let our “elected officials” know. Good time to do this may be prior to permits being issued?
After the Bylaw meeting I stood outside speaking with several people from the meeting including a couple custom home builders in the area. They said that property would likely yield 8-10 homes?
I thought Anmore had gone back to one acre minimums? Remember also that you need an allowance for roads, and the developer must give some land back as park. So the home number is likely a lot lower.
February 27th, 2009 @ 3:55 pm
In terms of “green building.” If I’m not mistaken we’ve been told this before in Anmore…and the promised “green killed a bunch of salmon and caused vast environmental damage.
February 28th, 2009 @ 12:30 pm
“What people (likely not from Anmore) are failing to recognize, is that in Anmore we’ve paid a premium for real estate. If I wanted to live next to a busy street, or if I wanted no natural habitat around my home, if I wanted to have to worry about what was happening on the street, and litter,and heavy carbon dioxide fumes floating through the air every morning, if I wanted parking issues, and traffic issues, I would have spent about half as much money and bought a home in Port Moody.”
WELL SAID RESIDENT!
Exactly, who is going to make up for our loss? When it comes time to sell, sooner then later thanks to SD43 and Anmore Council, who is going to want to pay over a million dollars for a house on a busy street, beside a traffic pig of a school. Hopefully someone but I’m sure at a loss.
Anmore homes tend to stay on the market longer due to there price range, can you imagine how long homes in that price range on a less desirable street will be sitting on the market for, I can only imagine longer.
February 28th, 2009 @ 3:40 pm
Wow. Part of me wants to commend the two of you for your honesty and getting out from behind the enivonment facade, admitting that the real issue here is MONEY. But you come off so bloody self righteous thinking that the rest of the community should suffer because you MIGHT take a modest hit in your property value.
So because I can only afford a townhouse on Heritage Mountain my child should have to go 5 times as far to school, rather than be able to walk.
Perhaps when you were paying your premium for your home you should have done your homework and see that a middle school was proposed down the street.
I jog down the pipeline and loves the trees as much as you do and was still sitting on the fence about the school but not any more.
You just lost a vote.
February 28th, 2009 @ 5:51 pm
Finally the truth comes out,
Right we had your vote.
My concerns if you want then prioritized;
1- safe street for my kids and pet
2- don’t want traffic congestion and pollution at my doorstep
3- would hate to see more of our trees go
4- finally how will property value be affected being on a less desirable street
Judge all you want.
I don’t know about you but when I was a kid growing up in Coquitlam I never had a school walking distance away. I didn’t even have a school bus, it was public transit. So this new thing about bringing schools closer to kids is all new to me. Not that they will even walk.
February 28th, 2009 @ 6:46 pm
Wow resident,
If you would like a rundown of what happened to Mossom Creek hatchery because of a private development on East Road, I would happily explain it to you. There was never a promise of green building.
Trust me, the hatchery would have LOVED that to have been a green development. It was not. The proposed school is mandated to be a LEED Gold school if it gets funded and built. This is a BC government mandate passed down to the SD43.
LEED Gold requires extremely high standards in goundwater and site runoff management. This applies to the site the moment they get a building permit and before they even begin clearing the land. It is changes in runoff and bare land development that can cause problems for our local streams and a LEED Gold development will pay extra attention to all water leaving the site. From an environmental stand point this type of development vs a standard development would be a blessing.
April 23rd, 2009 @ 7:44 pm
Very useful, thanks a lot, i love reading well written information, thanks again.
April 27th, 2009 @ 9:36 pm
I agree with you 99% but wonder if you have really looked at the whole picture. DOn’t mean to be critical just food for thought.
May 5th, 2009 @ 6:07 pm
Good info, thanks for the post!
May 10th, 2009 @ 6:36 am
Not entirely true, sometimes the easiest solution to what appears. Not bad but the presentation of the issue
May 10th, 2009 @ 9:48 pm
True. But every once in a while a time comes along when someone decides to do something about that which really matters and by taking action, they actually can make a difference.
May 11th, 2009 @ 10:59 pm
Nice post. There’s a similar topic thats related to this in Yahoo answers or Google groups, I think. I’ll find the link and post it back here.
May 13th, 2009 @ 7:42 am
Thanks for the great post…and thanks for adding our comment to the blog.
May 15th, 2009 @ 3:37 pm
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May 20th, 2009 @ 9:50 pm
You would think that they world have OK’d it at the beginning instead of allowing it to go so long without saying a thing and then bringing it back up when it was too late. I don’t understand it at all.
June 16th, 2009 @ 7:50 am
Thank you very much for that post , it was very informative. I sometimes wish there was more forward thinking kind of people in the world who thought like this , I think the world would be a much better place if there were.